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Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Sub-Committee.


Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Mark Elliott.


Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.


There was no urgent business.


Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 34 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

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Resolved –


That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.


The River Ale House, 131 Woolwich Road, London, SE10 0RF pdf icon PDF 121 KB

Application for a premises licence

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In reaching its decision the Sub Committee considered the Council’s statement of Licensing Policy, the Licensing Act 2003, the Regulations made there under and the Guidance issued by the Secretary of State under S.182 of that Act. In discharging its functions the Sub Committee did so with a view to promoting the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder, public safety, the prevention of public nuisance and the protection of children from harm.


Having considered all the evidence put before it the Sub-Committee decided to grant the Premises Licence under the Licensing Act 2003 in respect of the


River Ale House, 131 Woolwich Road, London SE10 0RJ


as follows:


That the hours for licensable activities


thesupply of alcohol shall be shall be


Monday – Sunday

12:00 – 23:00


Non-standard timings for the supply of alcohol shall be


Christmas Eve

12:00 – 01:00 the following day

New Year’s Eve

12:00 – 02:00 the following day

London Marathon Day

09:00 – 23:00


The licence is granted subject to the conditions as are consistent with the Operating Schedule and the conditions volunteered by the applicant as set out as follows:


(1)         A CCTV recording system shall be installed both inside and outside the premises and will record at all times that licensable activities take place and whilst customers remain on the premises.


(2)         The CCTV system shall cover all licensable areas, including entry and exit points, and will be capable of obtaining clear facial recognition images and a clear head to waist image of every person entering or leaving the premises.


(3)         All CCTV recordings shall be stored for a minimum period of 31 days with correct date/time stamping. Recordings shall be made available within 3 days of the request of police or authorised person (as defined by section13 of the Licensing Act 2003).


(4)         The CCTV system shall display on any recording the correct time and date of the recording.


(5)         A CCTV log shall be kept at the premises and be made immediately available on request to the police or an "authorised person" (as defined by Section 13 Licensing Act 2003). This log will record the date and time of any faults in the CCTV system, what action was taken and when the fault was rectified.


(6)         Notices shall be prominently displayed at all exits requesting the public to respect the needs of local residents and to leave the premises and the area quietly.


(7)         The “Challenge 25” proof of age scheme shall be implemented at the premises. All customers who appear to be under the age of 25 years will be challenged to prove they are over 18 when attempting to purchase alcohol. Acceptable forms of ID shall be a photographic driving licence, a passport, or a Home Office approved identity card bearing the holographic ‘PASS’ mark. If the person seeking alcohol is unable to produce an acceptable form of identification no sale or supply of alcohol will be made to or for that person.


(8)         All  ...  view the full decision text for item 4.


In Attendance:


Applicant                                 Trevor Puddifoot


Making Representation             Karen Lynch


The Chair welcomed all parties and ensured that introductions were made, all papers had been received and that all parties were aware of their right to be represented.


The Sub-Committee considered an application made by Trevor Puddifoot for the grant of a Premises Licence in respect of River Ale House, 131 Woolwich Road, London SE10 0RJ


The Licensing Team Manager gave an illustrated introduction to the report.


The Sub-Committee was addressed by the applicant. He explained the premises was to be a micropub and he detailed the expected clientele. He felt a micropub was appropriate for the parade of shops and he said he had received good feedback from the other businesses. In relation to the claim that the premises was situated in a quiet spot he related that he had hired an acoustic company to undertake a night time sound survey. It revealed a background sound level of on average 51db, peaking at 61db, with the company saying that the front road would be about 10 to 15 db higher. He said the nature of the premises was conducive to patrons leaving quietly, but notices would be displayed asking patrons to leave quietly, and a wall tablet would display live bus times for the buses that used Woolwich Road. A telephone contact number would be distributed to local residents so they could contact the manager if any problems ever occurred.


In response to questions from the Sub-Committee the applicant confirmed the premises would not be a microbrewery. He said there would be seating for 44 patrons; the maximum number of people under fire safety regulations was 60 people. They said they would sell snacks and non-alcoholic drinks. He indicated that deliveries would be in small vans not big lorries, and were expected between 10am and 3/4pm.


The Sub-Committee was addressed by a local resident who made representation.  She had met with the application and she was grateful that he had considered her concerns and was going to put things in places such as sound insulation; she hoped agreement could be reached about the placement of the CCTV. However, she was not convinced that there were robust measures to address all concerns. She questioned how they could fit 60 people into the premises; while not a licensing issue she raised the matter of the sewage drainage provision beneath the premises and whether the weight of the premises would affect it. She queried how commercial waste would be dealt with. She felt the 11pm closing time was out of keeping with other micropubs. She said it was a quiet residential area. She said there would be noise disturbance from the condensing ventilation unit which was beneath a bedroom window, from bottling up late at night, and from patrons smoking outside. She sought clarification on the siting of a receptacle for smokers outside the premises. She expressed concerns that if not managed there would be crime and disorder and anti-social behaviour. She  ...  view the full minutes text for item 4.