Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes.

Venue: Rooms 4 & 5, Town Hall, Wellington Street, Woolwich SE18 6PW

Contact: Daniel Wilkinson  Email: daniel.wilkinson@royalgreenwich.gov.uk or tel: 020 8921 5102

Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Committee.

Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Linda Perks.

 

Apologies for lateness were received from Councillor Dominic Mbang.

 

Apologies for leaving early were given by Councillor John Hills.

2.

Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.

Minutes:

There was no urgent business.

3.

Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 38 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Resolved –

 

That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.

4.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 64 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 29 January 2019.

 

No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.

Minutes:

Resolved -

 

That the minutes of the meeting of the Woolwich and Thamesmead Area Planning Committee held on 29 January 2019 be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record.

5.

Mount Zion Christian Ministries International Church, Former Woolwich Timber Yard, White Hart Road, Plumstead, SE18 1BS pdf icon PDF 396 KB

The Committee is requested to refuse the minor material amendment (section 73-15/1469/F) as set out in the report.

Additional documents:

Decision:

Granted a minor material amendment in connection with the planning permission 15/1469/F dated 14/12/2015 for a mixed use development to include place of worship with ancillary multi-purpose hall, playgroup and nursery, youth centre, education facilities and offices (Use Class D1 - Blocks A, B, C, and D) and offices / light industrial / industrial use (Use Classes B1 and B2 - Blocks E and F) together with provision of parking spaces (Departure from Development Plan) to allow continuation of the D1 use by variation of condition 2 (Discontinuation of D1 use)

 

The Officers’ recommendation to refuse permission was overturned on the basis that there were exceptional circumstances to depart from the development plan in that allowing mixed use at this site that had operated for 10 years did not prejudice the employment aims of the development plan generally.  And that the development provided employment as well as community church use and taking the social and economic benefits together are considered acceptable, and that standards conditions be attached.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Minutes:

The Planning Officer gave an illustrated introduction to the report. She highlighted the comments of the Planning Inspector, and the reason for refusal.

 

In response to questions from the Committee, the Planning Officer replied it was the applicant who was responsible for marketing the site, and evidence had to be provided that it had been marketed for industrial use. It was believed the premises had about thirty employees, but industrial use of the site would be presumed to give employment to a greater number.

 

Members noted that some types of industrial usage might not necessarily generate more employment on the site.

 

In response to questions from the Committee, the Assistant Director Planning and Building Control (Regeneration Enterprise and Skills) confirmed that should the Committee so decide they could grant consent in perpetuity if they considered there were exceptional circumstances. She advised that it had been only granted temporary consent last time on the basis of the Planning Inspector’s opinion given in 2012.

 

The Chair varied the order of the procedure for considering applications and invited the applicant and his agents to address the Committee first.

 

The Committee was addressed by the applicant’s agents. They stated that prior to it becoming a church the site had been marketed without success. It was said that the Officers had not discussed their objection with the applicant which was unfair.  The applicant had regenerated the site. It was felt that the Officers in recommending refusal had not given consideration to the other units on site, but had considered the application in isolation. They suggested that in this case mixed use of the site was acceptable, employment was brought to the site and it was better than leaving the site vacant. They detailed the other companies using that part of the site.

 

In response to questions from the Committee the applicant’s agents replied that there was room at the site for other companies to use. It was felt the whole site was now disjointed and not linked to the industrial area.  It was clarified that when the church first occupied the site they applied for planning permission, that was refused but temporary permission was granted at appeal, and then in 2015 planning permission was granted for a renewal of that temporary permission. At the 2015 renewal there had been no discussion about a requirement for marketing the site; because the applicant had not been asked to engage in further marketing they had not done so. It was understood that Council policy wanted the site to be used purely for employment, but the policy accepted when that was not possible mixed use could be considered.

 

The Committee was addressed by Ward Councillor Matthew Morrow. He felt there were exceptional circumstances for reversing the recommendation for refusal. The premises did generate some employment, and more than some of the other companies on the site. He commented on the community value of the church.

 

The Committee was addressed by Councillor Olu Babatola. He noted that Teresa Pearce,  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

6.

Former Barclays Bank PLC, 107A Plumstead High Street, Plumstead, London, SE18 1SE pdf icon PDF 393 KB

The Committee is requested to grant planning permission for the change of Use from A2 (Financial Professional Services) to mixed use comprising A1 (Retail) and A3 (Restaurant) and installation of a ventilation system, as set out in the report.

 

 

Additional documents:

Decision:

Deferred the item for a site visit.

 

 

 

Minutes:

Additional correspondence from objectors was circulated.

 

The Planning Officer gave an illustrated introduction to the report. She confirmed that there would be a separate, retrospective, application for the alterations without consent.

 

In responses to questions from the Committee the Assistant Director Planning and Building Control (Regeneration Enterprise and Skills) advised that the building was locally listed. The proposed use was appropriate for the building and for Plumstead High Street. Enforcement action had not been taken over the alterations without consent because, in line with the guidance, the applicant had been given the opportunity to put matters right. The Committee was advised that they could only consider the application before them and they not could not place conditions upon it that related to the other application.

 

The Committee was addressed by a resident in objection to the application. The proposed restaurant use was welcomed. Whilst understanding that the changes to the exterior were not part of the current application comment was made about them.

 

The Committee was addressed by the Chair of the Positive Plumstead Project. The proposed restaurant use was welcomed. It was questioned what was the point of listed building status if builders could do as they liked. It was requested that conditions be imposed to mitigate the situation.

 

The Chair stated that the Committee could not grant the current application with a condition that it be subject to the restoration of the façade. 

 

In response to a question from the Committee the Assistant Director Planning and Building Control (Regeneration Enterprise and Skills) advised that they could not simply defer the current application until the other application was resolved, however, Members could consider deferring the application for a site visit.

 

The Committee was addressed by the applicant and his representative. It was explained that for health and safety reasons the windows and doors had been changed because the woodwork was rotten, and also the door was not disabled-friendly. They would be replaced. 

 

The Chair proposed that the application be deferred for a site visit. The proposal was put to the vote and it was unanimously

 

Resolved -

 

That the item be deferred for a site visit.

7.

31 Rutherglen Road, Abbey Wood, SE2 0XZ pdf icon PDF 310 KB

The Committee is requested to grant Planning Permission for the retention and proposed extension of detached outbuilding in rear of garden, as set out in the report.

 

 

Additional documents:

Decision:

Granted retention and proposed extension of detached outbuilding in rear of garden, subject to the Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the report.

 

 

 

 

Minutes:

The Planning Officer gave an illustrated introduction to the report. He clarified the position of the proposed extension in relation to the neighbouring property.

 

In response to questions from the Committee, the applicant explained that the current garage was not fit for purpose and a longer one was needed, and stated that the neighbour had agreed to a change of the title deed regarding the small area of land affected

 

The Assistant Director Planning and Building Control (Regeneration Enterprise and Skills) confirmed it was understood that the neighbour had agreed to release the small piece of land affected, and that if the neighbour were to change their mind then the proposed extension could not be built.

 

The matter was put to the vote and it was unanimously

 

Resolved -

 

That retention and proposed extension of detached outbuilding in rear of garden, subject to the Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the reportbe granted.

8.

31 Bramshot Avenue, Charlton, London, SE7 7HY pdf icon PDF 2 MB

 

The Committee is requested to refuse the application for change of use of the ground floor from dental laboratory (B1) to two self-contained bedsits (C3). Conversion of two flats on the first, second and third floor into five (5) self-contained bed sits (revised description), as set out in the report.

 

Additional documents:

Decision:

Refused planning permission for change of use of the ground floor from dental laboratory (B1) to two self-contained bedsits (C3), conversion of two flats on the first, second and third floor into five self-contained bed sits for the reasons set out in the report and in Appendix 2 of the report.

 

Minutes:

The Senior Planning Officer gave an illustrated introduction to the report.

 

The matter was put to the vote and it was unanimously

 

Resolved -

 

That planning permission for change of use of the ground floor from dental laboratory (B1) to two self-contained bedsits (C3), conversion of two flats on the first, second and third floor into five self-contained bed sits be refused for the reasons set out in the report and in Appendix 2 of the report.