Greenwich Council

Agenda item

Chi Chi Dishes, 29-31 Hare Street, Woolwich, SE18 6NE

Application for a premises licence


In reaching its decision, the Licensing Sub-Committee considered and had regard to the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, the four objectives of Licensing Act 2003, the Regulations and statutory Guidance issued by the Secretary of State under section 182 of the 2003 Act. In discharging its functions, the Sub-Committee did so with a view to promoting the licensing objectives.


The Licensing Sub-Committee having considered all written representations and submissions during the hearing resolved to grant the application for a new Premises Licence  for the on-sale of alcohol, and regulated entertainment comprising of the playing of recorded and live music (e.g. solo saxophonist), performance of dance, and anything similar to music & dance (e.g. spoken word/comedy; karaoke).


Permitted Licensable activities:-


Supply of alcohol on the premises only shall be permitted during the following times:


Sunday –Thursday                                          

11.00 hours until 22.30

Friday & Saturday                                           

11.00 hours until 23.00                  


Regulated entertainment, being the playing of recorded music, performance of live music, performance of dance and anything similar to music and dance,


Sunday –Thursday                                          

20.00 hours until 22.30

Friday & Saturday                                           

20.00 hours until 23.00                  


The application for Late Night Refreshment was refused.


The premises licence is granted subject to the following conditions volunteered by the applicant, and those agreed with the police.  The Licensing Sub-Committee amended conditions 5 and 6, as drafted on page 21 of the Agenda.


(1)         The CCTV shall continuously record whilst the premises is open for licensable activities and during all times when customers remain on the premises.

(2)         All CCTV recordings shall be stored for a minimum period of thirty-one (31) days with date & time-stamping. Recordings shall be made available immediately upon request of the Police or ‘‘authorised persons’’ (as defined by Section 13 of the Licensing Act 2003)

(3)          All entry and exit points shall be covered enabling front identification of every person entering in any light condition. The CCTV system shall be capable of obtaining clear facial recognition images and a clear head-and-shoulders image of every person entering or leaving the premises.

(4)         A staff member from the premises who is conversant with the operation of the CCTV system shall be on the premises at all times the premises is open to the public. This staff member must be able to show a Police or ‘authorised person’’ (as defined by Section 13, Licensing Act 2013) recent data or footage with the absolute minimum of delay when requested.

(5)         The premises shall operate as a traditional restaurant, with alcohol only supplied by waiter/waitress service to customers who are seated, and as an ancillary to a substantive table meal, including for private event bookings, other than to a maximum of eight (8) customers who are waiting for tables at any one time.

(6)          No drinks shall be permitted to be taken outside the premises.

(7)         Signage requesting customers to respect local residents and businesses by leaving the premises quietly shall be conspicuously displayed at the exit.

(8)         All regulated entertainment shall be restricted to the basement.

(9)          No externally promoted events shall be permitted at the premises.

(10)   Legible records of all private event bookings shall be maintained for a minimum of twelve (12) months unless indicated otherwise.

         private/corporate event is one for invited guests only, where

         members of the public are not permitted on a walk-in basis. These

         records shall include (but not limited to):

(a)The nature of event and the number of patrons expected to


(b)The name of the person and/or organisation making the booking;

(c)The contact details (address, telephone number & e-mail address) of the person/s and/or organisation making the booking;

(d) A form of photographic identification obtained, clearly identifying the person making the booking, a legible copy of which shall be retained for a minimum of three (3) months;

(e) A proof of address such as a utility bill or a letter from the council, or other government department, clearly showing the address supplied by the person/s and/or organisation making the booking, a legible copy of which shall be retained for a minimum of three (3) months;

(11)      All staff shall be trained in the law about the sale of alcohol. Such training shall include challenging every individual who appears to be under 25 years of age and to refuse service where individuals cannot produce acceptable means of identification; Such training (including any refresher training) shall be logged and provided not less than every six (6) months. The training log shall be shall be made available for inspection by Police and ‘‘authorised persons’’ (as defined by Section 13, Licensing Act 2003).

(12)      A refusals log must be kept at the premises and made immediately available on request to the police or an ‘‘authorised person’’ (as defined by Section 13, Licensing Act 2003). The refusals log is to be inspected on a monthly basis by the DPS and noted in the log, and a record made in the log of any actions that appear to be needed to protect young people from harm. The log must record all refused sales of alcohol and include the following;

(a)          The identity of the member of staff who refused the sale;

(b)         The date and time of the refusal;

(c)          The alcohol requested and reason for refusal;

(d)         Description of the person refused alcohol

(13)      The ‘‘Challenge 25’’ policy shall be enforced, whereby any person appearing to be under the age of 25 shall be asked to prove their age when attempting to purchase alcohol. The only acceptable forms of identification shall be those photographic identification documents recognised in the Home Office guidance, including a passport, a photo card driving licence, or a proof-age- card bearing a ‘PASS’ hologram.

‘‘Challenge 25’’ signage (available from Royal Greenwich Trading Standards) shall be displayed conspicuously at the premises.

(14)      A written drugs policy that details how the operator aims to prevent customers or staff bringing weapons or illegal drugs into the premises, and further details procedures for dealing with any such weapons and drugs found, shall operate at the premises.

(15)      Any person found carrying weapons or illegal drugs at the premises shall be permanently excluded and the police shall be informed.

(16)      Approved arrangements at the premises, including means of escape provisions, emergency warning equipment, electrical installation and mechanical equipment, shall at all material times be maintained in safe condition and in full working order.


The Licensing Sub-Committee also imposed additional conditions as follows:


  1. The number of Patrons temporarily leaving the premises to smoke outside the premises, shall be limited to five (5) persons at any one time.
  2. No music shall be audible outside of the premises.
  3. All litter outside and immediately adjacent to the premises shall be cleared daily after the premises close for business.


The premises licence is granted subject to the Mandatory conditions for sale of alcohol as set out in the Licensing Act 2003 as amended by the Licensing Act 2003 (Mandatory Licensing Conditions) Order 2010 and Order 2014.


Basis and Reasons for the Decision:


The Sub-Committee’s decision was based upon the licensing objectives of: Prevention of crime and disorder and prevention of public nuisance and public safety.


The Licensing Sub-Committee noted that:


(i) the premises were located within a mixed commercial and residential part of

    Woolwich Town Centre.

(ii)  the premises have been closed and boarded up for some considerable time,

    and prior to this had been operated as a convenience store.

(iii)The premises are within the Woolwich Town Centre Cumulative Impact Zone and also within the Woolwich Town Centre Public Spaces Protection Order (PSPO) area. The Order prohibits the public consumption of alcohol from any ‘‘open vessel’’.


The Licensing Officer presented the application to the Licensing Sub-committee, outlining details of the application contained in the agenda and he confirmed there had been three (3) representations against the application from Mr Jack Goodall on behalf of Inigo Property Letting Agency with offices in close proximity to the premises; Ms Paula Ben Moshe of Capa Investments Limited on behalf of tenants residing in properties above the premises; and the Greenwich Licensing Police. The police representation was not pursued upon agreement of conditions with the applicant. It was confirmed that the applicant proposed to operate the premises as a sit-down and take-away African-themed restaurant, with up to 50 covers across its ground floor & basement.


The Sub-Committee noted that there were 19 licensed premises in the vicinity of the premises, one of which was licensed for licensable activities until 03:00 on Fridays and Saturdays.


The Licensing Sub-Committee heard from the Ms Sophie Okoye, the applicant.


Ms Okoye expressed that the premises would be run as an African food restaurant and not as a nightclub. She did on several occasions refer to private parties being held in the basement at the premises. She emphasised there would be 12 cameras inside and outside of the premises and security guards.


She confirmed that music would be restricted to the basement of the premises only.  She said she wanted to ‘bring West End down to Woolwich for adults, children and families’.


Councillor Tester asked Ms Okoye questions about the level of music to be played and she responded that music would be played low unless it was for a party in the basement. He asked about rubbish clearance and whether staff at the premises would clean outside before and after the premises was open. She confirmed that no one would be allowed to take anything outside except for takeaways.


She was asked about live performance of dance and she said it would be only at birthday parties, as the place was for people to sit and eat and not with loud music.


Councillor Tester asked questions about the training of staff particularly the Designated Premises Supervisor (DPS) and he sought reassurance that staff would be properly trained. Ms Okoye offered her reassurances regarding training of staff at the premises. The Sub-Committee noted that no alcohol can be served when there is no appointed DPS.


He then asked her about customers smoking outside of the premises and she confirmed that there would be an area to the side of the building with an ashtray. He asked whether this was to the front of the building and she confirmed it was.


He raised a query about rubbish collection with Ms Okoye and she said that Subway put their rubbish out every evening; this is what is in place and she wanted to be the same. The premises will be entering into a commercial waste agreement.


Councillor Smith asked if anyone involved in the business had experience of running a restaurant and Ms Okoye confirmed she had previous experience of managing a restaurant.


Ms Okoye was asked whether she would consider limiting the number of customers smoking outside the premises as it was a residential street and she respond to say there would be security staff  on duty.


Councillor Smith asked about parties at the premises and what would be the difference to the normal operation. Ms Okoye said she would let people know that downstairs is for a party and that she would let the council know She said it was not the reason she was operating.


Councillor Cornforth asked Ms Okoye about soundproofing at the premises. A gentleman accompanying Ms Okoye came forward and confirmed that there was soundproofing downstairs at the premises and ventilation to bring in fresh air, and there was a window downstairs but it would not be open. Councillor Cornforth asked whether there was air conditioning and he said yes.


The gentleman stated that building regulations had been complied with and he said there were small integrated speakers so that when people come into the basement for a party, it would limit sound and it would not be every weekend.


Councillor Tester reminded Ms Okoye that she had said she would be playing background music and she responded that it would be limited.


Mr Jack Goodall of Inigo Property Management Limited with offices close by the premises said that most of the things in his representation had been spoken about at the meeting.  His concerns were around anti-social behaviour, noise and potentially large groups causing disturbance late at night when leaving the premises. He had raised a particular concern as to Myrtle Alley which is opposite the premises and expressed it was a blind spot for crime.


He made reference to reflecting that the postcode of SE18 had the highest violent crime reports in June 2018 with 298 recorded.


The applicant had responded to the objections prior to the meeting in writing and this was included at pages 75-76 in the agenda and which the Licensing Sub-Committee noted.


Mr Goodall asked about rubbish collection and that in theory this could be taken out hourly, and there was nothing to facilitate collection.


He highlighted that the street was very residential.


Ms Paula Ben Moshe addressed the Licensing Sub-Committee with her concerns about smoking outside of the premises and that the flats above had only single glazed windows and there would be an effect on the residents’ quality of life. There were people with young children and newborn babies and the need to limit persons on the street where there could be shouting and alcohol on the streets.


During open discussion Councillor Cornforth asked Ms Okoye for more details about rubbish collection and it was confirmed that a commercial waste collection facility would be put in place.


The Licensing Sub-Committee, in determining the application, had regard to the residential nature of the immediate vicinity and that the premises should not have a negative impact within the Cumulative Impact Zone within the premises are situated.  The Sub-Committee also gave due regard to the agreed condition 8 with the police that regulated entertainment will be restricted to the basement of the premises. The Licensing Sub-Committee were satisfied that in reducing the hours of licensable activities applied for by the applicant would promote the licensing objectives of prevention of crime and disorder, public safety and prevention of public nuisance. 


If the applicant or those making representations are aggrieved by the Council’s decision, they have a right to appeal to the Magistrates’ Court.  Such an appeal must be submitted to the Magistrates’ Court within 21 days of the date from when the appeal period is deemed to have started, which will be stated in the cover email or letter to the Notice of Decision.

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