Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes

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No. Item


Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Sub-Committee.


There were no apologies for absence.


Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.


There was no urgent business.


Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 35 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

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Resolved –


That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.


Minutes pdf icon PDF 70 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 16 November 2017.


No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.


Resolved -


That the minutes of the meeting of Licensing Sub-Committee ‘C’ held on 16 November 17 be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record.


Kingsman Cafe & Restaurant - 2 Kingsman Parade, SE18 pdf icon PDF 510 KB

Application for a premises licence

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In reaching its decision the Sub Committee considered the Council’s statement of Licensing Policy, the Licensing Act 2003, the Regulations made there under and the Guidance issued by the Secretary of State under S.182 of that Act. In discharging its functions the Sub Committee did so with a view to promoting the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder, public safety, the prevention of public nuisance and the protection of children from harm.


Having considered all the evidence put before it the Sub-Committee decided to grant the Premises Licence under the Licensing Act 2003 in respect of the


Kingsman Café & Restaurant - 2 Kingsman Parade, Woolwich, SE18 5QE


as follows:


Hours for licensable activities:


the supply of alcohol shall be


Monday – Thursday

 12:00 – 21:30

Friday –Saturday

 11:00 – 22:30


The hours that the premises shall be open to the public shall be:


Monday - Thursday

07:00 – 22:00


07:00 – 00:00


The licence is granted subject to the conditions as are consistent with the Operating Schedule and the conditions volunteered by the applicant as set out below:


1             The “Challenge 25”/“Think 25” proof of age scheme shall be operated at the premises. All customers who appear under the age of 25 shall be challenged to prove that they are over18 when attempting to purchase alcohol. Acceptable forms of ID include a photo driving licence, passport, or Home Office approved identity card bearing the holographic ‘PASS’ mark. If the person seeking alcohol is unable to produce an acceptable form of identification, no sale or supply of alcohol shall be made to or for that person. 

2             All staff shall be trained in the law about the sale of alcohol. Such training shall include challenging every individual who appears to be under 25 years of age and to refuse service where individuals cannot produce acceptable means of identification; understanding acceptable forms of ID; and using the refusals register. Such training (including any refresher training) shall be logged and provided not less than every six months. The training log shall be made available for inspection by Police and authorised persons. 


3             A refusals log must be kept at the premises, and made immediately available on request to the police or an authorised person. The refusals log shall be inspected on a monthly basis by the DPS and noted in the log, and a record made in the log of any actions that appear to be needed to protect young people from harm. The log must record all refused sales of alcohol and include the following:  


          a) the identity of the member of staff who refused the sale;

          b) the date and time of the refusal;

          c) the alcohol requested and reason for refusal;

          d) description of the person refused alcohol.


4             The following poster shall be displayed conspicuously on the premises in customer-facing areas:

‘Think 25’ or similar poster to advise potential purchasers that suitable proof of age shall be required for all purchasers who appear  ...  view the full decision text for item 5.


In Attendance:


Applicant:                       Mrs Tsanka Dyakova


Making representation:   Mr Mahmut Hirli, Mr Hirli Junior

Mr David Pendergast

Ms Jane Gardiner

Mr Sean Ruddy

Councillor John Fahy


The Chair welcomed all parties and ensured that introductions were made, all papers had been received and that all parties were aware of their right to be represented. The Chair informed those present on the order of proceedings and noted that requests had been received from 8 residents and local businesses for Councillor John Fahy to represent them at the hearing.


The Sub-Committee considered an application made by Kingsman Café & restaurant – 2 Kingsman Parade, SE18


The Licensing Officer gave an illustrated introduction to the report.


In response to a questions from the Sub Committee, the Licensing Officer confirmed that the local Cumulative Impact Zone, which ended at John Wilson Street, was roughly a mile away from the Kingsman Café premises. He clarified that alcohol would be sold ancillary to a meal which is cooked and prepared on the premises and consumed with a knife and fork.


The Sub Committee was addressed by the applicant who confirmed she was an owner of a personal licence and would be the premises supervisor for the Kingsman Café. She stated that the residents who had made representation against her application had not been well informed and did not know the nature of the premises. She added that her leaseholder on the property was the Royal Borough of Greenwich and she had spent a lot of money to renovate the premises.


The applicant stated that the café would run as a family diner with a friendly atmosphere serving Bulgarian and English dishes. She added that customers would be served alcohol with their meals and that no drinks would be allowed off the premises. She stated that the application promoted the 4 licensing objectives and highlighted the conditions she had agreed with the Police Licensing team. She continued that she had respect for the local residents and her intention was to work with the local community confirming that she lived above the café and wanted a safe area. She read out a number of customer approvals.


In response to a questions from the Sub Committee, the applicant confirmed the premises had been operating for 2 weeks testing out dishes and sample soups. She added that the she had previous experience of the catering trade and had owned a restaurant and an off licence in Bulgaria.


The Sub Committee was addressed by Councillor John Fahy who confirmed that the residents who had made representation had asked for him to speak on their behalf. He advised that the residents did not want to undermine the business and generally viewed an operating business as a positive for the local area. He stated the main issue was with the extended licence as the other business operating in the area only sold alcohol until 9:30pm. He noted the recommendations proposed by the police and stated that the residents were concerned that customers would  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.