Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes.

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Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Sub-Committee.

Minutes:

There were no apologies for absence.

2.

Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.

Minutes:

There was no urgent business.

3.

Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 137 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

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Minutes:

Resolved –

 

That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.

4.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 53 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 18 June 2018.

 

No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.

Minutes:

Resolved -

 

That the minutes of the meeting of Licensing Sub-Committee ‘B’ held on 18 June 2018 be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record.

5.

Cobalt Unit 9, 35 White Hart Avenue, Thamesmead, London SE23 0GU pdf icon PDF 277 KB

Application for a premises licence

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Decision:

In reaching its decision, the Sub-Committee considered and had due regard to the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, the Licensing Act 2003, the Regulations made thereunder, and the statutory Guidance issued under S.182 of that Licencing Act 2003. In discharging its functions, the Sub Committee did so with a view to promoting the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder, public safety, the prevention of public nuisance, and the protection of children from harm.

 

Having considered all of the evidence put before it, the Sub-Committee resolved to grant a new Premises Licence for the internal area of the premises only in respect of Cobalt Unit 9, 35 White Hart Avenue, Thamesmead, London SE23 0GU.

 

The Sub-Committee excluded the external area of the premises, as applied for, for the supply and consumption of alcohol, from the premises licence.

 

Hours for licensable activities: -

 

Supply of alcohol, for consumption on and off the premises, shall be

 

Monday – Sunday

9am – 11pm

 

The Premises Licence is granted subject to the conditions as are consistent with the Operating Schedule and the conditions volunteered by the applicant set as follows:

 

1.       CCTV recording system shall be installed that is compliant with, and capable of, capturing an image of evidential standard.

 

2.       All CCTV recordings shall be maintained for a minimum of thirty-one (31) days with date & time-stamping. Cameras shall be installed so as to cover both internal and external areas of the premises. At least one camera shall cover ingress/egress points and at least one other camera shall cover the alcohol service area.

 

3.       The CCTV system shall continuously record whilst the premises is open for licensable activity and during all times when customers remain on the premises.

 

4.       Notices shall be displayed advising that CCTV is in operation.

 

5.       Staff shall be fully trained in the operation of the CCTV system and there shall be at least one (1) member of staff on duty during trading hours who is able to provide copies of CCTV recordings to the Police and authorised officers of the local authority. Such copies shall, in any event, be provided within 48 hours.

 

6.       All staff shall be instructed to record in an incident book/register all incidents of crime and disorder occurring at the premises, and details of any occasion when the Police are called. These records shall include the date & time of any incident and the identities of staff members involved. The incident book/register shall be made available for inspection by Police and authorised officers of the local authority on demand.

 

7.       There shall be no open vessels of alcohol permitted beyond the licensed boundary/ambit of the premises.

 

8.       There shall be no daily deliveries or waste/recycling collections between 23:00 hours and 07:00 hours.

 

9.       Notices shall be displayed to remind persons leaving the premises to do so in a quiet and orderly manner.

 

10.     The “Challenge 25”/“Think 25” proof of age scheme shall be operated at the premises. All customers who appear to be under  ...  view the full decision text for item 5.

Minutes:

In attendance:

 

Applicant:                       Nicholas Yeomans

                                      Emma Yeomans

 

Making representation:   Paul Priestly (representative for the landlord)       

Mr Guy Pewter (representative for landlord)

                                      Kevin Baumer (Legal representative)

 

 

The Sub Committee considered an application by Nicholas Yeomans, from Hopstuff Brewery for the grant of a premesis licence in relation to Cobalt Unit 9, 35 White Hart Avenue, Thamesmead, London SE23 0GU.

 

The Chair welcomed all parties and ensured that introductions were made, all papers had been received and that all parties were aware of their right to be represented.

 

The Licensing Officer gave an illustrated introduction to the report and confirmed there were no amendments.

 

In addressing the Sub Committee, the applicant confirmed that Hopstuff Brewery had been licensed in the Borough at other premises with no objections and were proposing the same processes having outgrown their previous site. He stated the application was support their growing online sales and allow them to run tasting sessions.

 

In response to a question, the applicant confirmed the premesis would have a commercial unit producing beer and would be holding guided tasting events, . he informed the Sub-Committee of a Temporary Events Notice for an investor event which was well received and had no complaints adding the main purpose for the licence was to dispatch online beer sales.

 

In terms of vehicle movement, the applicant confirmed there would be 1 parcel pick per day for online dispatch. He stated that the guided tours would not increase traffic to development as the gates would be shut.

 

The Sub-Committee was address by the landlords legal representative who was in objection to the application. He advised the details on the application were similar to that of the pub or club and was not the same as the operation described by the applicant at the hearing. The objection was on the grounds of public safety and nuisance as the business site had industrial units which would not be safe for drinkers.

 

With the agreement of all parties, the landlords legal representative showed the Sub-Committee a picture taken at the Temporary Event Notice which showed patrons sitting outside the premises with drinks. He highlighted that the lease on the land outside only permitted parking and would want any licence to restrict use of the area for licensable activities.

 

In addressing the Sub-Committee, the landlords legal representative stated that the applicant was unwilling to discuss the application and resolve some of the concerns shared by the landlord. That online sales was not being objected to rather, the on-sale of alcohol which would bring people to the industrial units that were in use 24 hours. He suggested that Temporary Event Notices could be used to meet commercial needs.

 

In response to the points raised, the applicant highlighted that there had been no objection or noise complaints to the TEN. He added that several brewerys run successful tour operation and would not want to limit the possibility of expanding the hopstuff tours if they are successful. He confirmed he would not use the outside  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

6.

Taproom SE10, Unit 2 River Gardens Walk, London SE10 0FZ pdf icon PDF 390 KB

Application for a premises licence

Additional documents:

Decision:

In reaching its decision the Sub-Committee considered and had due regard to the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, the Licensing Act 2003, the Regulations made there under and the statutory Guidance issued under S.182 of that Licencing Act 2003. In discharging its functions, the Sub-Committee did so with a view to promoting the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder, public safety, the prevention of public nuisance and the protection of children from harm.

 

Having considered all of the evidence put before it the Sub-Committee resolved to grant a new Premises Licence for the internal area of the premises only in respect of the Taproom SE10, Unit 2 River Gardens Walk, London SE10 0FZ.

 

The Sub-Committee excluded the external area of the premises, as applied for, for the supply and consumption of alcohol, from the premises licence.

 

Hours for licensable activities: -

 

Supply of alcohol, for consumption on and off the premises shall be

 

Monday – Sunday

11am – 11pm

New Year’s Eve

11am – 1am the next day

 

The Premises Licence is granted subject to the conditions as are consistent with the Operating Schedule and the conditions volunteered by the applicant and the conditions agreed with the police, as follows:

 

1.       A CCTV recording system shall be installed that is compliant with, and capable of, capturing an image of evidential standards.

 

2.       All CCTV recordings shall be maintained for a minimum of thirty-one (31) days with date/time stamping. Cameras shall be installed so as to cover both internal and external areas of the premises. At least one camera shall cover ingress/egress points and at least one other camera shall cover the alcohol service area.

 

3.       The CCTV system shall display on any recording the correct time and date of the recording.

 

4.       The CCTV shall continuously record whilst the premises is open for licensable activities and during all times when customers remain on the premises.

 

5.       Notices shall be displayed advising that CCTV is in operation.

 

6.       Staff shall be fully trained in the operation of the CCTV system and there shall be at least one member of staff on duty during trading hours who is able to provide copies of CCTV recordings to the Police and authorised officers of the Local Authority. Such copies shall, in any event, be provided within 48 hours.

 

7.       All staff shall be instructed to record in an incident book/register all incidents of crime and disorder occurring at the premises and details of any occasion when the police are called. These records shall include the time and date of any incident and the identities of staff members involved. The incident book/register shall be made available for inspection by Police and authorised officers of the Local Authority upon demand.

 

8.       There shall be no open vessels of alcohol permitted beyond the licensed boundary of the premises

 

9.       There shall be no deliveries or waste/recycling collections between 23:00 hours and 07:00 hours the following day.

 

10.     Notices shall be provided to remind persons  ...  view the full decision text for item 6.

Minutes:

In attendance:

 

Applicant:                       Nicholas Yeomans

                                      Emma Yeomans

 

Making representation:   Councillor Denise Scott-Mcdonald (representing 18 local residents), PC Giles Balestrini (Police licensing), Jane Devine (Planning Enforcement), Ibrahim Elias (Environmental Protection Officer), Mr Ian Leroni, Ms Dana Patel and Mr Zoran Alumuli and Mr Freeman (in Support)

 

The Sub Committee considered an application by Nicholas Yeomans, from from Hopstuff Brewery for the grant of a premises licence in relation to Taproom SE10, Unit 2 River Gardens Walk, London SE10 0FZ

 

The Chair welcomed all parties and ensured that introductions were made, all papers had been received and that all parties were aware of their right to be represented.

 

The Licensing Officer gave an illustrated introduction to the report and confirmed there were no amendments.

 

The Sub-Committee was addressed by the applicant who confirmed the existence of 3 Taprooms located in Royal Arsenal, Deptford and Ashford in Kent. That they served hopstuff  brewery products and local wines and spirits. He added the lease was contingent on the granting of a licence and

the unit alone was not a viable if the outside area was not included in the licensable activities.

 

The applicant advised the Sub-Committee on the details of the application and confirmed he had met with residents and explained the operations. That it would not be a “happy hour” establishment and customers would be from the local community itself.

 

In response to questions, the applicant confirmed that his other establishments were similar to the premises for the proposed licence. That the Deptford Taproom was directly underneath residential properties with the other 2 surrounded by residential properties. He added that the outside areas for all the Taproom were of the same design and that offering food was the important part of the business bringing in 60-70% of the revenue.

 

The Sub-Committee was addressed by PC Giles Balestrini who was representing the Police Licensing Team. He confirmed the Police had agreed conditions with the applicant apart from condition 5 which was not workable.

 

The Sub-Committee was address Jane Devine from Planning Enforcement who confirmed the matters raised in her written representation were mainly planning related issues however, she felt it was necessary to make the Sub-committee aware of the issues surrounding the external area. She advised that the external area still required planning permission and planning had not had the chance to consider the proposal for the large area requested. She highlighted the planning condition for Lovell’s Wharf requiring a 4-metre vehicular passage to be maintained in addition to the cycle path for emergency vehicles.

 

In response the points raised, the applicant stated there was enough space for emergency vehicles and the public pathway was also available.

 

The Sub-Committee was addressed by Ibraheem Elias from Environmental Health who confirmed he was making representation based on the public nuisance due to noise and odour as this was they had received complaints for similar establishments across the borough. He requested that the conditions on his written representation be added to the licence including the closure of  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.