Greenwich Council

Agenda, decisions and minutes

Venue: Rooms 4 & 5, Town Hall, Wellington Street, Woolwich SE18 6PW

Contact: Jean Riddler  Email: jean.riddler@royalgreenwich.gov.uk or tel: 020 8921 5857

Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies for Absence

To receive apologies for absence from Members of the Committee.

Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Austen and Fahy.

2.

Urgent Business

The Chair to announce any items of urgent business circulated separately from the main agenda.

Minutes:

That the incorrect Minutes for consideration were issued on the agenda and the correct set, for 28 November 2017, were issued on a supplementary Agenda.

 

That public submissions were made in respect of items 5 and 6, which were forwarded to the Planning Committee, in advance of the meeting.

3.

Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 34 KB

Members to declare any personal and financial interests in items on the agenda.  Attention is drawn to the Council’s Constitution; the Council’s Code of Conduct and associated advice.

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Minutes:

Resolved –

 

That the list of Councillors’ memberships as Council appointed representatives on outside bodies, joint committees and school governing bodies be noted.

4.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 93 KB

Members are requested to confirm as an accurate record the Minutes of the meeting held on 28 March 2017.

 

No motion or discussion may take place upon the Minutes except as to their accuracy, and any question on this point will be determined by a majority of the Members of the body attending who were present when the matter in question was decided.  Once confirmed, with or without amendment, the person presiding will sign the Minutes.

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Minutes:

Resolved -

 

That the minutes of the meeting of the Woolwich and Thamesmead Area Planning Committee held on 28 November 2017 be agreed and signed as a true and accurate record.

5.

67 Plumstead High Street, Plumstead, London, SE18 1SB - 15/3970/F pdf icon PDF 453 KB

The Committee is requested to grant full planning permission for the construction of a three storey new build development consisting of 8 residential units (Class C3) including 4 x 2-bedroom flats and 4 x 1-bedroom flats, plus associated secure bicycle parking and refuse storage areas.

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Decision:

Resolved to grant full planning permission for the construction of a three storey new build development consisting of 8 residential units (Class C3) including 4 x 2-bedroom flats and 4 x 1-bedroom flats, plus associated secure bicycle parking and refuse storage areas, subject to;

 

·       the Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the report and additional conditions as follows;

 

Public House (A4) Management Strategy

Prior to the commencement of the Public House and function room a Management Strategy for its use shall be submitted to and approved in writing by, the Local Planning Authority. The Management Plan shall set out, but not be limited to the following:

·       Hours of use;  and

·       Details of how the Public House will play a role within the local community, offering a meeting place for food, drink, entertainment and functions; and

 

The operation of the use shall be in strict accordance with the details approved under this.

 

Reason: In order to maintain the character and amenities of the area and to ensure compliance with Policies E(a) and DH1 of the Royal Greenwich Local Plan: Core Strategy with Detailed Policies (2014).

Minutes:

The Area Planning Manager (East) gave an illustrative presentation advising that there would be no change to or adverse impact on the locally listed building frontage or the function hall to the rear, which was not listed.  The new play area, to the rear of the function hall, would be for residents use only and not ancillary to the pub or function hall.  The flats would not be higher than the frontage of the public house and would not be visible from the street.

 

Members sought clarification as to how the application met the Core Strategy, Policy H2, on housing mix asking if 3 bed accommodation would be feasible and if the Locally Listing aspect covered just the frontage and why was it listed.

 

The Area Planning Manager (East) responded that this was an Edwardian style 2 ½ story building which was entirely listed with the frontage having most of the characteristics which gave rise to the listing.  The proposal did not seek any change to the pub, which would still be retained as a viable business.    Officers had discussed the housing mix with the applicant and it was agreed that the site was not suitable for 3 or 4 bed properties.  

 

The Planning Committee accepted an address from the representative for the Positive Plumstead Project who advised that the Positive Plumstead Project were not opposed to the application but did have a number of concerns.  There was a need for affordable large units and family housing, which this did not provide and as there were less than 10 units there was no need to provide any affordable units.  Given that the flats were directly over the function hall, which had a licence for activities to 2am, what consideration had been made in respect of noise nuisance and sound insulation. Whilst it was understood why this was a car free development what impact or consideration had been given to any residents who were a blue badge user.

 

With regards to the public house the representative for the Positive Plumstead Project noted that this was one of the oldest pubs on Plumstead High Street but had been shut for two years due to the rent level.  Further, it was not clear if the 1st floor of the pub would be used and if there would be change to the use of the function hall.  People wanted a thriving pub and function hall and asked that the Council support this pub.  This was the oldest on Plumstead High Street but had been shut for two years as the rent was not viable and asked that the pub be protected with conditions similar to that imposed on the Lord Hood public house.

 

A Member noted that a lot of the concerns raised related to the commercial aspect of the pub and could not be conditioned under planning, questioning if the representative for the Positive Plumstead Project had any specific proposal.

 

The representative for the Positive Plumstead Project appreciated that a number of  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

6.

Land adjacent to 32 to 54 Sladedale Road, Plumstead. London. SE18 1PZ - 17/2588/F pdf icon PDF 344 KB

The Committee is requested to grant approval for the Construction of 4 two storey buildings comprising 8 self-contained flats (4 x 1-bed and 4 x 2-bed).

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Decision:

Resolved to defer for a site visit.

 

Minutes:

The Planning Committee accepted an illustrative presentation from the Area Planning Manager (East) who advised that the matter was before them at a Ward Councillors request.

 

In response to Members questions the Area Planning Manager (East) advised that he was not aware as to how long this plot had remained undeveloped for but there had been a number of applications made to develop the site.  Whilst the correct treatment and removal of the Japanese Knotweed on the site could be conditioned as part of the development, the treatment and removal that had spread to other areas would be a matter for enforcement.

 

A Member raised that Policy H2 required a good housing mix and questioned why, on a site that could demonstratively accommodate 3 bedroom properties was such a few number of 2 bedroom properties proposed.

 

The Area Planning Manager (East) responded that the application is the same as that which was granted on 20 August 2013 which lapsed on 20 August 2016 and, whilst appreciating that there were 3 bedroom properties in the area, Members would need to give reasons as to why they felt that this housing mix was no longer appropriate.

 

A Member commented that they were aware that there had been an issue regarding a collapsed drain in the area and there were issues around water pipes and sink holes, had these issues been taken into account, including the possible effect of pile driving. 

 

The Area Planning Manager (East) responded that no objection have been lodged by Environment Health but the building regulations require appropriate surveys be undertaken and a Construction Method Plan be submitted, before work commences, would be conditioned.

 

The Planning Committee accepted addresses from four residents who, in speaking in objection to the application, noted that whilst housing was required there was a need for 3 bed terrace houses not flats, which the site would support.  Further, terrace houses would be in keeping with the adjacent properties.  There would also be a greater increase in the number of potential car users, if these were flats rather than houses, which would add pressure to already well used streets.  The issue of Japanese Knotweed, on the site, had been ongoing for many years and it was now effecting a large number of neighbouring properties with one speaker advising that it had cost £2,000 per sqm to have it removed from their garden.  There was great concern that the Japanese Knotweed needed to be removed correctly and from the entire site and areas it had migrated to, whether this application was granted or not, which a number of residents had requested of the applicant, without response.

 

One of the speakers also raised concerns that the change in height meant that the rear of the flats would look directly in the bedrooms of the adjacent properties, lower down the hill.  Concern was also expressed of land shifting down the hill and causing damage to garden fences and properties.

 

Members sought clarification as to what action could be  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

7.

79 Lakedale Road, Plumstead, London, SE18 1PR - 16/3170/HD pdf icon PDF 237 KB

Committee is requested to approve Planning Permission for the demolition of existing lean-to, for the construction of a single storey wrap-around extension (Revised-Description).

 

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Decision:

Resolved to approve Planning Permission for the demolition of existing lean-to, for the construction of a single storey wrap-around extension (Revised-Description), subject to the Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the report.

 

Minutes:

The Area Planning Manager (East) gave an illustrative presentation advising that planning officers had tried to gain access to the site, but the applicant had not been of assistance and the only photographic views of the site were external to the property.

 

A Panel Member advised that they were extremely concerned about this site and they, as the Ward Councillor, had received a number of complaints from residents that the shed area, which had been erected to the side of the building and given a painted door number, was being used as accommodation.

 

The Area Planning Manager (East) advised that the area referred to by the Ward Councillor was not included in, nor formed any part of the application being before Members for consideration.  Further, the applicant had referred to the area, where the shed had been erected, as a garage and assured Members that enforcement officers were actively investigating the situation.

 

The Area Planning Manager (East) responded to a Members question that the proposal was completely to the rear of the existing property and did not impact on or effect neighbouring properties or the existing properties garage area.

 

In considering the application Members raised concern at the lack of co-operation from the applicant.  It was considered that the application did not adversely affect neighbouring properties and there were no planning grounds under which it could be refused.

 

The Chair put the application to the vote with 6 Members in favour of granting the application, 0 against and 0 abstentions.

 

Resolved unanimously -

 

That it be agreed to approve Planning Permission for the demolition of existing lean-to, for the construction of a single storey wrap-around extension (Revised-Description), subject to the Conditions set out in Appendix 2 of the report.